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* [Required] Sainsbury 1995. Paradoxes. 2nd edition. Cambridge University Press. Sections 5.2-5.8. On reserve: hkulib:b1480077, hkulib:b3048828 intranet:sainsbury-paradoxes-ch5.pdf
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* [Required] Sainsbury 1995. Paradoxes. 2nd edition. Cambridge University Press. Sections 5.2-5.8. On reserve: hkulib:b1480077, hkulib:b3048828
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* [Required] Sainsbury 1995. Paradoxes. 2nd edition. Cambridge University Press. Sections 5.2-5.8. On reserve: hkulib:b1480077, hkulib:b3048828 intranet:sainsbury-paradoxes-ch5.pdf
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* Sainsbury 1995. Paradoxes. 2nd edition. Cambridge University Press. Sections 5.2-5.8.
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* Reform - Natural language is inconsistent, but it is possible to avoid the paradox by the changing the language.
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* Reform - Paradoxes inevitably arise in natural language, but it is possible to avoid the paradox by changing the language.
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*  Buridan (late medieval):
@@@God exists.\\
None of the sentences in this pair is true.@@@

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Aristotle's ''Metaphysics'':
@@@To say of what is that it is not, or of what is not that it is, is false, while to say of what is that it is, or of what is not that it is not, is true.@@@

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*Aristotle's ''Metaphysics'':
@@@To say of what is that it is not, or of what is not that it is, is false, while to say of what is that it is, or of what is not that it is not, is true.@@@
* According to Athenaeus, a gravestone on the Greek Island of Cos contains this poem:
@@@O Stranger: Philetas of Cos am I,\\
'Twas the Liar who made me die,\\
And the bad nights caused thereby.@@@
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Aristotle's ''Metaphysics'':
@@@To say of what is that it is not, or of what is not that it is, is false, while to say of what is that it is, or of what is not that it is not, is true.@@@

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* 'para' = beyond, and 'doxa' = opinion, belief.
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* Give up bivalence - L1 is neither true nor false.
* Give up non-contradiction - L1 is both true and false.
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* Give up bivalence - L1 is neither true nor false. [tv gap]
* Give up
non-contradiction - L1 is both true and false. [tv glut]
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!!Some responses
* Give up bivalence - L1 is neither true nor false.
* Give up non-contradiction - L1 is both true and false.
* Reform - Natural language is inconsistent, but it is possible to avoid the paradox by the changing the language.
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!!Solutions?

* One might argue (though not everyone would agree) that a sentence fails to be true or false if (a) it has a false presupposition, or (b) the subject term fails to refer.
* But L1 does not seem to fall into either case. So we still need to explain why L1 does not have a truth value.

!!Explanation #1 : truth-values require proper grounding

* See Sainsbury for details.
* Assumption #3 : The truth (or falsity) of a sentence depends on something distinct from itself (truth-makers).
**Whether "Socrates had red hair" is true depends on the state of certain physical objects.
** But whether L1 is true or not does not depend on anything else external to it.
* Problems with this explanation :
** What about "this is a sentence"?
** What about logical truths?
* Sainsbury : "an example" of proper grounding is a sentence whose truth depends on a fact that can be expressed without using the concept of truth.
** If only an example, what is the general definition?
** The proposal is not plausible if it is taken as a general definition. Consider "Penguins do not have the concept of truth."
** Perhaps what is meant is : the truth of a sentence has to depend on some fact that is independent of whether the sentence is true or false (Assumption #4).
** L1 fails this test.
** Also sentence L2 : "L2 is true."

!!A further problem

* If L1 does not have a truth-value, then we can draw two conclusions :
** (a) L1 is not true.
** (b) L1 is not false.
** L1 says of itself that it is false. This is compatible with (a).
** But since (b) is true, it is false that "L1 is false." So L1 is false after all.
* So if L1 is neither true nor false, then L1 is both false and not false. So we have a contradiction, as Sainsbury points out.

!!The strengthened liar sentence

@@@(L3) L3 is not true.@@@
* L3 is true → "L3 is not true" is true  → L3 is not true.
* L3 is false → L3 is not true → L3 is true
* L3 is neither true nor false → L3 is not true → L3 is true.
* Conclusion : L3 is both true and not true!

!!Two lessons to bear in mind ?
* The proper grounding theory as it stands cannot solve the paradox.
* It is not clear how solutions which postulate semantic defects in the liar sentences can deal with L3 since a sentence with semantic defects would not be true, which is what L3 says.

!!Exercises

* For you to think about : Footnote 3 of Sainsbury on page 113 says "This derivation shows that one could not regard L1 as a basis for a straightforward proof of G." What does he mean by this claim?

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@@@Even one of their own Prophets has said, "Cretans are always liars, evil brutes, lazy gluttons." This testimony is true. Therefore, rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith and will pay no attention to Jewish myths or to the commands of those who reject the truth. (Titus 1:12-14)@@@
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* Eubulides of Miletus. Eubulides reportedly said: A man says that he is lying. Is what he says true or false?
* [[http://mathworld.wolfram.com/EpimenidesParadox.html|Epimenides Paradox]]

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@@@Bivalence: L1 is either true or false.@@@

Problem:

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* Assumption #1 : no sentence can be both true and false.
* Assumption #1 → L1 is not true and L1 is not false.
* Assumption #2 : if L1 is not true then it is false.
* Assumption #1 & #2 → L1 is both false and not false
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* So L1 is both true and false.

@@@Non-contradiction: It is not the case that L1 is both true and false.@@@

Relevance of the paradox
: the concept of truth, logical laws, consistency of language.
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* Sainsbury Paradoxes 5.2-5.8.
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* Sainsbury 1995. Paradoxes. 2nd edition. Cambridge University Press. Sections 5.2-5.8.
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For you to think about :

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3 of Sainsbury on page 113 says "This derivation shows that one could not regard L1 as a basis for a straightforward proof of G." What does he mean by this claim?@@@
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* For you to think about : Footnote 3 of Sainsbury on page 113 says "This derivation shows that one could not regard L1 as a basis for a straightforward proof of G." What does he mean by this claim?
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@@Footnote 3 of Sainsbury on page 113 says "This derivation shows that one could not regard L1 as a basis for a straightforward proof of G." What does he mean by this claim?@@
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@@@Footnote 3 of Sainsbury on page 113 says "This derivation shows that one could not regard L1 as a basis for a straightforward proof of G." What does he mean by this claim?@@@
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* L1 is true → "L1 is false" is true  \Rightarrow  L1 is false  \Rightarrow  L1 is
  both true and
false.

* L1
is false  \Rightarrow  "L1 is false" is true  \Rightarrow  L1 is true  \Rightarrow  L1 is
 
both true and false.
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* L1 is true → "L1 is false" is true → L1 is false → L1 is both true and false.
* L1 is false → "L1 is
false" is true → L1 is true → L1 is both true and false.
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* Assumption #1  \Rightarrow  L1 is not true and L1 is not false.
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* Assumption #1 → L1 is not true and L1 is not false.
* Assumption #2 : if L1 is not true then it is false.
* Assumption #1 & #2 → L1 is both false and
not false.
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* One might argue (though not everyone would agree)
  that a sentence fails to be true or false if
(a) it
  has a false
presupposition, or (b) the subject term
  fails to
refer.

* But L1 does not seem to fall into either case. So we
  still need to explain why L1 does not have a truth
value.

4 Explanation #1 : truth-values require proper grounding
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* One might argue (though not everyone would agree) that a sentence fails to be true or false if (a) it has a false presupposition, or (b) the subject term fails to refer.
* But L1 does not seem to fall into either case. So we still need to explain why L1 does not have a truth value.

!!Explanation #1 : truth-values require proper grounding
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* Assumption #2 : The truth (or falsity) of a sentence
  depends on something distinct from itself
 
(truth-makers). Example :

  * Whether "Socrates had red hair" is true depends on
    the state of certain physical objects.

* But whether L1 is true or not does not depend on
  anything else external to
it.
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* Assumption #3 : The truth (or falsity) of a sentence depends on something distinct from itself (truth-makers).
**Whether "Socrates had red hair" is true depends on the state of certain physical objects.
** But whether L1 is true or not does not depend on anything else external to
it.
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  * What about "this is a sentence"?

  * What about logical truths?

* Sainsbury : "an example" of proper grounding is a
  sentence whose truth depends on a fact that can be
  expressed without using the concept of
truth.

  * If only an example, what is the general definition?

  * The proposal is not plausible if it is taken as a
 
  general definition. Consider "Penguins do not have
    the concept of
truth."

* Perhaps what is meant is : the truth of a sentence
  has to depend on some fact that is independent of
  whether the sentence is true or false (Assumption #3).

  * L1 fails this test.

 
* Also sentence L2 : "L2 is true."
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** What about "this is a sentence"?
** What about logical truths?
* Sainsbury : "an example" of proper grounding is a sentence whose truth depends on a fact that can be expressed without using the concept of truth.
** If only an example, what is the general definition?
** The proposal is not plausible if it is taken as a general definition. Consider "Penguins do not have the concept of truth."
** Perhaps what is meant is : the
truth of a sentence has to depend on some fact that is independent of whether the sentence is true or false (Assumption #4).
** L1 fails this test.
**
Also sentence L2 : "L2 is true."
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* If L1 does not have a truth-value, then we can draw
  two conclusions
:

  * (a) L1 is not true.

  * (b) L1 is not false.

* L1 says of itself that it is false. This is
  compatible with
(a).

* But since (b) is true, it is false that "L1 is false."
  So L1 is false after
all.

* So if L1 is neither true nor false, then L1 is both
 
false and not false. So we have a contradiction, as
 
Sainsbury points out.
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* If L1 does not have a truth-value, then we can draw two conclusions :
** (a) L1 is not true.
** (b) L1 is not false.
** L1 says of itself that it is false. This is compatible with (a).
** But since (b) is true, it is false that "L1 is false." So L1 is false after all.
* So if L1 is neither true nor false, then L1 is both false and not false. So we have a contradiction, as Sainsbury points out.
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* Sentence L3 : "L3 is not true."

* L3 is true  \Rightarrow  "L3 is not true" is true  \Rightarrow  L3 is not true.

* L3 is false  \Rightarrow  L3 is not true  \Rightarrow  L3 is true

* L3 is neither true nor false
  \Rightarrow  L3 is not true  \Rightarrow  L3 is
  true

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@@@(L3) L3 is not true.@@@
* L3 is true → "L3 is not true" is true  → L3 is not true.
* L3 is false → L3 is not true → L3 is true
* L3 is neither true nor false → L3 is not true → L3 is true.
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  * The proper grounding theory as it stands cannot
    solve the paradox.

  * It is not clear how solutions which postulate
    semantic defects in the liar sentences can deal
    with L3 since a sentence with semantic defects
 
would not be true, which is what L3 says.
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* The proper grounding theory as it stands cannot solve the paradox.
* It is not clear how solutions which postulate semantic defects in the liar sentences can deal with L3 since a sentence with semantic defects
would not be true, which is what L3 says.
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Footnote 3 of Sainsbury on page 113 says "This
derivation shows that one could not regard L1 as a
basis for a straightforward proof of G." What does he
mean by this claim?
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@@Footnote 3 of Sainsbury on page 113 says "This derivation shows that one could not regard L1 as a basis for a straightforward proof of G." What does he mean by this claim?@@
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* L1 is true --> "L1 is false" is true  \Rightarrow  L1 is false  \Rightarrow  L1 is
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* L1 is true → "L1 is false" is true  \Rightarrow  L1 is false  \Rightarrow  L1 is
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 Liar sentence #1

* Sentence L1 : "L1 is false."

* L1 is true  \Rightarrow  "L1 is false" is true  \Rightarrow  L1 is false  \Rightarrow  L1 is
to:
Liar sentence #1

@@@(L1) L1 is false.@@@

* L1 is true -->  "L1 is false" is true  \Rightarrow  L1 is false  \Rightarrow  L1 is
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6 The strengthened liar sentence
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!!The strengthened liar sentence
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!!History
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!The Liar Paradox - Introduction

!!Readings
* Sainsbury Paradoxes 5.2-5.8.

!!The Paradox

 Liar sentence #1

* Sentence L1 : "L1 is false."

* L1 is true  \Rightarrow  "L1 is false" is true  \Rightarrow  L1 is false  \Rightarrow  L1 is
  both true and false.

* L1 is false  \Rightarrow  "L1 is false" is true  \Rightarrow  L1 is true  \Rightarrow  L1 is
  both true and false.

* Assumption #1 : no sentence can be both true and false.

* Assumption #1  \Rightarrow  L1 is not true and L1 is not false.

!!Solutions?

* One might argue (though not everyone would agree)
  that a sentence fails to be true or false if (a) it
  has a false presupposition, or (b) the subject term
  fails to refer.

* But L1 does not seem to fall into either case. So we
  still need to explain why L1 does not have a truth value.

4 Explanation #1 : truth-values require proper grounding

* See Sainsbury for details.

* Assumption #2 : The truth (or falsity) of a sentence
  depends on something distinct from itself
  (truth-makers). Example :

  * Whether "Socrates had red hair" is true depends on
    the state of certain physical objects.

* But whether L1 is true or not does not depend on
  anything else external to it.

* Problems with this explanation :

  * What about "this is a sentence"?

  * What about logical truths?

* Sainsbury : "an example" of proper grounding is a
  sentence whose truth depends on a fact that can be
  expressed without using the concept of truth.

  * If only an example, what is the general definition?

  * The proposal is not plausible if it is taken as a
    general definition. Consider "Penguins do not have
    the concept of truth."

* Perhaps what is meant is : the truth of a sentence
  has to depend on some fact that is independent of
  whether the sentence is true or false (Assumption #3).

  * L1 fails this test.

  * Also sentence L2 : "L2 is true."

!!A further problem

* If L1 does not have a truth-value, then we can draw
  two conclusions :

  * (a) L1 is not true.

  * (b) L1 is not false.

* L1 says of itself that it is false. This is
  compatible with (a).

* But since (b) is true, it is false that "L1 is false."
  So L1 is false after all.

* So if L1 is neither true nor false, then L1 is both
  false and not false. So we have a contradiction, as
  Sainsbury points out.

6 The strengthened liar sentence

* Sentence L3 : "L3 is not true."

* L3 is true  \Rightarrow  "L3 is not true" is true  \Rightarrow  L3 is not true.

* L3 is false  \Rightarrow  L3 is not true  \Rightarrow  L3 is true

* L3 is neither true nor false  \Rightarrow  L3 is not true  \Rightarrow  L3 is
  true

* Conclusion : L3 is both true and not true!

!!Two lessons to bear in mind ?

  * The proper grounding theory as it stands cannot
    solve the paradox.

  * It is not clear how solutions which postulate
    semantic defects in the liar sentences can deal
    with L3 since a sentence with semantic defects
    would not be true, which is what L3 says.

!!Exercises

For you to think about :

Footnote 3 of Sainsbury on page 113 says "This
derivation shows that one could not regard L1 as a
basis for a straightforward proof of G." What does he
mean by this claim?