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* Goldstein, L. (1992). 'This statement is not true' is not true. ''Analysis''. 52.1, 1-5.
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* Goldstein, L. (1992). 'This statement is not true' is not true. ''Analysis''. 52.1, 1-5. [[http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0003-2638%28199201%2952%3A1%3C1%3A%27SINTI%3E2.0.CO%3B2-6 |link]]
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# Samesaying principle - if A says the same thing as B, and A is true (false), then B is also true (false).
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# Samesaying principle - if A says the same thing as B, and A is true (false), then B is also true (false). Rejecting the samesaying principle makes it unclear how truth is to be explained. (The truth of a statement depends on what is said and the facts.)
August 25, 2006, at 02:15 PM by 147.8.22.251 -
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* Goldstein, L. (1992). 'This statement is not true' is not true. ''Analysis;;. 52.1, 1-5.
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* Goldstein, L. (1992). 'This statement is not true' is not true. ''Analysis''. 52.1, 1-5.
August 25, 2006, at 02:15 PM by 147.8.22.251 -
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!!Readings

* Goldstein, L. (1992). 'This statement is not true' is not true. ''Analysis;;. 52.1, 1-5.

August 03, 2006, at 04:32 PM by 219.78.21.164 -
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!!Comments

* Why is it that one token expresses a
statement whereas the other one does not?
* One would have thought that a statement is expressed if the speaker succeeds in referring
to something and succeeds in attributing a property to that which he has referred to.
* A property divides things into two classes : those that have the property and others that do not
. Likewise one might divide things in the world into those that express statements (group A) and those that do not (group B).
* So in uttering L5 it seems plausible to say that one does refer to something
(L5) and is attributing a property to it. 
* Samesaying principle - if A says the same thing as B, and A is true (false), then B is also true (false).
* Is it possible to use the proper grounding requirement to deal with this objection?
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!!Three objections - L5 does express a statement

# Why is it that
one token expresses a statement whereas the other one does not? Normal explanations of expressive failures do not seem to apply here, e.g. referential failure.
# A subject-predicate sentence ''Fa'' expresses a statement if ''a'' ("L5") succeeds in denoting an object and ''F'' ("does not express a true statement") expresses a property
. This applies to L5.
# Samesaying principle - if A says the same thing as B, and
A is true (false), then B is also true (false).
August 03, 2006, at 04:23 PM by 219.78.21.164 -
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* The same sentence might express a statement in one context but fails to do so in another context.
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* The same sentence might express a statement in one context but fails to do so in another context. "That man is a pervert."
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@@@(L6) Sentence L5 does not express a true statement.@@@
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* Is it possible to use the proper grounding requirement to deal with this objection?
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* Samesaying principle - if A says the same thing as B, and A is true (false), then B is also true (false).
* Is it possible to use the proper grounding requirement to deal with this objection?
July 17, 2006, at 07:09 PM by 219.78.20.121 -
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!Sentences and statements
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!Liar - Sentences and statements
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@@@(L3) Sentence L3 expresses a false statement.@@@
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@@@(L4) Sentence L4 expresses a false statement.@@@
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@@@(L4) Sentence L4 does not express a true statement.@@@
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@@@(L5) Sentence L5 does not express a true statement.@@@
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* So one might argue that although L4 does not express a true statement, one can report that fact using the very same sentence type and succeeds in making a true statement.
But why should this be accepted?
* No argument is given as to why
one token expresses a statement whereas the other does not.
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* So one might argue that although L5 does not express a true statement, one can report that fact using the very same sentence type and succeeds in making a true statement.

!!Comments

* Why is it that one token expresses a statement whereas the other
one does not?
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* So in uttering L4 it seems plausible to say that one does refer to something (L4) and is attributing a property to it.
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* So in uttering L5 it seems plausible to say that one does refer to something (L5) and is attributing a property to it.
July 12, 2006, at 02:04 PM by 219.77.134.102 -
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* The Liar paradox has to be reformulated :
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!!Modified versions of the Liar sentences
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* Why is this supposed to help?
** The same sentence might express a statement in one context but fails to do so in another context.
** So one might argue that although L4 does not express a true statement, one can report that fact using the very same sentence type and succeeds in making a true statement.
* But why should this be accepted?
** No argument is given as to why one token expresses a statement whereas the other does not.
** One would have thought that a statement is expressed if the speaker succeeds in referring to something and succeeds in attributing a property to that which he has referred to.
** A property divides things into two classes : those that have the property and others that do not. Likewise one might divide things in the world into those that express statements (group A) and those that do not (group B).
** So in uttering L4 it seems plausible to say that one does refer to something (L4) and is attributing a property to it.
** Is it possible to use the proper grounding requirement to deal with this objection?
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Why is this supposed to help?
* The same sentence might express a statement in one context but fails to do so in another context.
* So one might argue that although L4 does not express a true statement, one can report that fact using the very same sentence type and succeeds in making a true statement.
But why should this be accepted?
* No argument is given as to why one token expresses a statement whereas the other does not.
* One would have thought that a statement is expressed if the speaker succeeds in referring to something and succeeds in attributing a property to that which he has referred to.
* A property divides things into two classes : those that have the property and others that do not. Likewise one might divide things in the world into those that express statements (group A) and those that do not (group B).
* So in uttering L4 it seems plausible to say that one does refer to something (L4) and is attributing a property to it.
* Is it possible to use the proper grounding requirement to deal with this objection?
July 12, 2006, at 02:03 PM by 219.77.134.102 -
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Philosophy improves the analytical abilities of students.@@@
July 12, 2006, at 02:02 PM by 219.77.134.102 -
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* Drawing a distinction between sentences and statements / propositions.
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!!Distinguishing between between sentences and statements / propositions.
@@@哲學提高學生的分析能力//Philosophy improves the analytical abilities of students.@@@

July 12, 2006, at 01:56 PM by 219.77.134.102 -
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* Issue : Is it possible to solve the liar paradox by :

  * Drawing a distinction between sentences and
    statements / propositions
.

  * Taking statements and not sentences as truth-bearers.

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!Sentences and statements

* Drawing a distinction between sentences and statements / propositions.
* Taking statements and not sentences as truth-bearers
.
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  * L3 : "Sentence L3 expresses a false statement."

  * L4 : "Sentence
L4 does not express a true statement."
    (The corresponding version of the strengthened liar)

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@@@(L3) Sentence L3 expresses a false statement.@@@
The corresponding version of the strengthened liar:
@@@(
L4) Sentence L4 does not express a true statement.@@@
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  * The same sentence might express a statement in one
    context but fails to do so in another
context.

  * So one might argue that although L4 does not
    express a true statement, one can report that fact
    using the very same sentence type and succeeds in
    making a true
statement.
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** The same sentence might express a statement in one context but fails to do so in another context.
** So one might argue that although L4 does not express a true statement, one can report that fact using the very same sentence type and succeeds in making a true statement.
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  * No argument is given as to why one token expresses
    a statement whereas the other does
not.

  * One would have thought that a statement is
    expressed if the speaker succeeds in referring to
    something and succeeds in attributing a property
to
    that which he has referred to.

    * A property divides things into two classes :
     
those that have the property and others that do
      not. Likewise one might divide things in the
   
  world into those that express statements (group
      A) and those that do not (group B).

    * So in uttering L4 it seems plausible to say that
      one does refer to something (L4) and is
      attributing a property to it.

    * Is it possible to use the proper grounding
   
requirement to deal with this objection?
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** No argument is given as to why one token expresses a statement whereas the other does not.
** One would have thought that a statement is expressed if the speaker succeeds in referring to something and succeeds in attributing a property to that which he has referred to.
** A property divides things into two classes : those that have the property and others that do not. Likewise one might divide things in the world into
those that express statements (group A) and those that do not (group B).
** So in uttering L4 it seems plausible to say that one does refer to something (L4) and is attributing a property to it.
** Is it possible to use the proper grounding requirement to deal with this objection?
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* Issue : Is it possible to solve the liar paradox by :

  * Drawing a distinction between sentences and
    statements / propositions.

  * Taking statements and not sentences as truth-bearers.

* The Liar paradox has to be reformulated :

  * L3 : "Sentence L3 expresses a false statement."

  * L4 : "Sentence L4 does not express a true statement."
    (The corresponding version of the strengthened liar)

* Why is this supposed to help?

  * The same sentence might express a statement in one
    context but fails to do so in another context.

  * So one might argue that although L4 does not
    express a true statement, one can report that fact
    using the very same sentence type and succeeds in
    making a true statement.

* But why should this be accepted?

  * No argument is given as to why one token expresses
    a statement whereas the other does not.

  * One would have thought that a statement is
    expressed if the speaker succeeds in referring to
    something and succeeds in attributing a property to
    that which he has referred to.

    * A property divides things into two classes :
      those that have the property and others that do
      not. Likewise one might divide things in the
      world into those that express statements (group
      A) and those that do not (group B).

    * So in uttering L4 it seems plausible to say that
      one does refer to something (L4) and is
      attributing a property to it.

    * Is it possible to use the proper grounding
      requirement to deal with this objection?